Ubuntu對硬體的需求何者較吃重? [論壇 - Ubuntu硬體支援]


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ultraman mebius
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試試看 xMule


剛剛用以下關鍵字 Google了一下:
amule 2.20 high cpu load

結果出來的討論一堆,全部都是Ubuntu的,最後又找到這兩個討論:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=404248

建議自己編譯能解決問題, "運氣好的話" 能將cpu load降至6%以下 ...

而且amule開發者對ubuntu fanboyz 很不爽, 大概是給launchpad的spam氣壞了吧 XD, 說那是Ubuntu的問題,不是他們的問題,他們打死也不修!!:

http://forum.amule.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=a262f6724c4f718f6e3c73316ed8db6b&topic=15317.msg80706#msg80706

User294, I think you missed the part where the bug you reported is a major fuckup by Ubuntu that affects way more applications that aMule. You could have learned that by reading the link I posted in my response, but you decide to keep flaming us. When Ubuntu fucks up like that, we're the ones that have to read how everyone complains about aMule being crappy, we're the ones that have to research what is causing thtat problem (LIKE I DID WITH YOUR BUG REPORT) and we are the ones that have to tell people that is Ubuntu's fault (LIKE I DID IN YOUR BUG REPORT). And then, I have to listen to you flaming us for telling you it's Ubuntu's fault. If you love doing us the great favour of reporting a bug, why don't you do the same with ubuntu IN THE FUCKING LINK I GAVE YOU?

Seriously, what's wrong with you? Just suck it up, it's Ubuntu's problem, we don't fix (and 99% of the time can't fix) problems caused by distributions, and that's all. Ubuntu has screwed us over since day 1 of this application, most of the non-fixed bug reports are from Ubuntu users because Ubuntu creates the problems, not us. Sometimes the Ubuntu packages have patches that change functionality (Festor knows how I feel about this already) and sometimes in the past they have introduced bugs. Other times, they (消音) up basic libraries and aMule is affected, like in this case, which was reported for the first time in January.

And yes, for user-contributed packages you have to bug the person that makes the package, or compile the application yourself (including wxWidgets usually) before reporting a bug to us. That's what package mantainers are for, it's a shitty job but I'm incredibly grateful they do it. We're busy enough dealing with creating valid and working source code to have to deal with how other people messes up compiling that code. We even have very detailed compilation instructions in our wiki.

What you're doing is the equivalent of going to buy a car, having the vendor scratch your car's paint with a rusty knife and then going to complain to the car's manufacturer. Put responsibility in the proper place.


好了,那我還是決定試試Debian或其他Linux養動物了,不過在我又要重灌之前,可以請問使用其他Distro的各位,你們的aMule也會有佔用所有CPU的現象嗎? 謝啦!!!

(Ubuntu fanboys請別罵我,我的其他兩台桌機還是Ubuntu的

2008/7/21 13:49 | ee583 373d2 f6ddc 2da4e
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ultraman mebius
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在仔細查下去,似乎和ubuntu搞砸許多liabrary有關,尤其是wxwidgets, 難怪我用很多需要wxwidegts的套件 (如wxdfast) 下場都是狂當。

2008/7/21 13:58 | ee583 373d2 f6ddc 2da4e
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本論壇對此已有解答:

回覆: 救救我吧!我編譯amule cvs老是出問題?
http://www.ubuntu.org.tw/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=35038

More Info:
http://www.amule.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo_Compile_In_Debian

2008/7/21 14:21 | ee583 373d2 f6ddc 2da4e
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我在Debian Sid上的aMule 2.2沒有效能問題(我沒有自己編譯)
開了幾天都沒事

照你的描述可能真的是Ubuntu把lib搞砸了

2008/7/21 14:38
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aMule 最近似乎也有Debian和Opensuse災情傳出, aMule forum: bug report 置頂文

(說Ubuntu, debian, opensuse 的bug不能算在他們頭上, 建議使用者自行編譯wxgtk和cryto +++ )

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唉, 怎麼會這樣...
不知道他們說的basic libraries是指哪些, 說不定還牽扯到別的應用程式

2008/7/21 15:06
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從訊息來說是wxGTK和crypto++的lib都有可能造成問題

不過我倒是不知道Debian會有這種事

2008/7/21 15:37
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ultraman mebius
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從訊息來說是wxGTK和crypto++的lib都有可能造成問題

不過我倒是不知道Debian會有這種事


可以請問一下你跑aMule的Loading大約是多少? CPU & RAM 等級?

Thanks!

2008/7/21 15:40 | ee583 373d2 f6ddc 2da4e
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我不能提供很精準的數字(因為也可能和網路還有檔案大小有關)
只是講一下我之前用htop時看到的數字

CPU平常約1%~10%(我有在看網頁時,閒置約1%~2%)(Athron64 3200+)
1GRAM,很少用超過一半,X window自己就用了100MB左右,其他程式都沒吃它這麼多

CPU比較難比較,因為它都是可以一瞬間跳到100%再降回來
然後我用的是KDE4,會比xfce這種桌面還要吃資源,偶而會有資源吃光的情形,不過那是KDE4和nVidia之間的問題,和aMule無關

2008/7/21 16:49
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>唉, 怎麼會這樣...
>不知道他們說的basic libraries是指哪些, 說不定還牽扯到別的應用程式

好像影響不大吧,
我試著找出我安裝的官方套件
(自己編譯的不算,不過印象中自己編譯的也很少有用到wxWidgets)
有用到 libwxgtk2.6-0 libwxgtk2.8-0 libcrypto++7 它們的:

dpkg -l | tr -s " " ":" | cut -d":" -f2 > /tmp/tmpfile;for i in $(apt-cache rdepends libwxgtk2.6-0 libwxgtk2.8-0 libcrypto++7 | sed "s/|/ /g" | sort | uniq | grep "^ " | xargs); do grep -w $i /tmp/tmpfile ; done

結果:
amule
amule-common
filezilla
filezilla-common
libgtk2.0-0 (奇怪怎麼出現這個)
libwxgtk2.8-dev

可見 wxWigets 畢竟比較上冷門一點

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